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Friday, May 28, 2010 - 8:29amSanction this postReply
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Rand said she wouldn't vote female, and that if we ever had a woman as Commander-In-Chief, then we had stooped low.

We've stooped that low, now.

I voted yes.

Ed


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Friday, May 28, 2010 - 10:11amSanction this postReply
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At first she was a breath of fresh air but now she puts so much emphasis on Christianity that I voted "no."


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Friday, May 28, 2010 - 10:15amSanction this postReply
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I voted "Depends" - like upon, who the other Primary candidates are. It would be very, very difficult to vote for someone as religious as Sarah Palin.

It is hard to find anyone I like. So far the only candidate I'd have no problems with is Paul Ryan... so, I hope he runs, and, of course, Ron Paul.

The others who have the intelligence and the right political positions, at least on economic issues, are also strongly religious (Rick Perry, Michelle Bachman, Newt Gingrich, etc.)

Does anyone have any candidates they like?



(Edited by Steve Wolfer on 5/28, 11:40am)


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Friday, May 28, 2010 - 3:30pmSanction this postReply
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I voted "No."    Religion has her view completely obstructed, and it's scary.

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Friday, May 28, 2010 - 3:38pmSanction this postReply
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Teresa,

What if she were running against Obama?

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Friday, May 28, 2010 - 6:12pmSanction this postReply
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I would vote for Glenn Beck if he were on the ticket running against Obama.

Ed

p.s. I have a theory about the recent uptick in Beck's "religiosity." Years ago, Beck wasn't a staunch religionist. Instead, he argued for free minds and free markets. My theory goes a little something like this (brace yourself):

Just before the election of Obama, Obama's goons came to visit Beck in the middle of the night. They told him that they know he, working as a radio personality, was going to win against Obama on all the issues. They threatened him with his life. They told him to get "religion" or else. They did this in order to have a peripheral issue to fight back against (by being able to claim that Beck is a religious zealot -- instead of an honest and sincere thinker).

It's sort of like creating a Straw Man out of thin air, in order to have ammunition later (if it becomes necessary to use it). Think about it. Think about what kind of behavior we have seen from this administration.

Ed


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Friday, May 28, 2010 - 6:32pmSanction this postReply
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Ugh, Palin running against Obama would be a complete disaster.  I'd stay home on election night.

I really like Sarah Palin personally. I think she's genuine and honest, but I do question her hard line Christian principles.

I mean, you can be a staunch Christian, and still see the forest for the trees. I'm not sure Palin does, or even can. Rand Paul, on the other hand, is (I think) one of that kind of Christian.  He wouldn't discount an Objectivist opinion, whereas I think Palin would.

(Edited by Teresa Summerlee Isanhart on 5/28, 6:38pm)


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Friday, May 28, 2010 - 6:34pmSanction this postReply
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LOL, Ed.

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Friday, May 28, 2010 - 8:50pmSanction this postReply
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Hey, all you guys are missing Gary Johnson, candidate for president in2012! Former governor of New Mexico and favorably viewed as a success in that job. Climber of Everest, Iron Man, advocates legalizing of marijuana, was a Republican governor and will run for POTUS as a Republican but has Libertarian roots.

I've got his bumper sticker. Just because he doesn't have a big profile just yet, it's going to come, I hope.

Wiki

YouTube   etc.

I, too, like Rand Paul.


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Friday, May 28, 2010 - 9:18pmSanction this postReply
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After this poll has had time to run its course, I'll put up another one with a long list of names and ask people to select who they would vote for. (Including Rand Paul, Glenn Beck, Ron Paul, Sarah Palin, Fred Thompson, Gary Johnston, etc.)

Everyone, let me know who you think should be included so that I don't leave anyone out.

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Saturday, May 29, 2010 - 8:34amSanction this postReply
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Sarah Palin is the frontrunner and likely to remain so.  NM Gov. Gary Johnson might make a good VP candidate.  The other names offered (Glenn Beck, et a..) are other likely second-slot choices.  The race is long, now, actually four years to nomination.  So, anyone who runs must be able to bring enough of their own power and resources to the presidential campaign.  Glenn Beck might do that as a VP candidate, but he lacks the political infrastructure.  I mention him only as the most popular and best known of the other names tossed out.  Despite having lived in New Mexico, I had to look up Gary Johnson. 

TSI's reservations about Sarah Palin are cogent for us, and presumably also for the many libertarians who might consider (almost) any LP candidate as far preferable.
But Barr wasn't just any Republican: he led the G.O.P. in a number of causes that are completely anathema to rank-and-file libertarians. A faithful social conservative throughout his tenure in the House, he helped quash Washington, D.C.'s right to vote on medical marijuana, upbraided the Pentagon for letting soldiers practice Wiccan beliefs, and led early attempts at preventing gays from marrying. Not exactly the stuff of libertarian dreams. In fact, one of the biggest political victories of the modern Libertarian Party was to unseat Bob Barr in 2002; they poured money into an anti-Barr campaign, ran attack ads and called him the "worst drug warrior in Congress". Another strike against Barr: he's a former CIA official and a former federal prosecutor.
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1808384,00.html
I forget who I voted for last time, maybe Obama... But certainly if it were a choice between Sarah Palin and Bob Barr, it would be a tough choice and I would probably vote Republican, rather than waste the vote on a loser who does not deserve to win.

Sarah Palin has a host of problems, religion being only the most glaring, but consider, for instance, Richard Nixon.  Nixon created detente with China, delivering military secrets to them.  He created the Environmental Protection Agency.  He also froze wages and prices and imposed "emergency" import quotas.  Nixon severed the last tie of the US dollar to gold. During Watergate, he asked Henry Kissinger to kneel and pray with him.  None of that would win hearts and minds here.  On the other hand, in October 1967, he wrote "Asia After Vietnam" for Foreign Affairs (here).  Clearly, the man was deeper than most who care care to know. 

So, what about Sarah Palin?  Does she have any depth?  Ted Keer once touted her thinking style based on her reply in an interview in which she spoke far and wide on several points at once before coming back to answer the question.  Keer was impressed with her mental acuity, but to me, that kind of talking sounds neurotic.


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Saturday, May 29, 2010 - 1:30pmSanction this postReply
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I voted "no". I'm assuming there will be a Libertarian Party candidate on the ballot.

Since I live in Hawaii, even if Palin was running against someone well to the left of Mao, I have zero chance of influencing the outcome of the election, so might as well vote my conscience. If Hawaii's electoral votes are in play, it'll be a Republican landslide.

If I lived in a tightly contested swing state in a close election I might consider holding my nose and picking Palin over Obama and the rest of the pack, since she's not as bad as Obama and would probably have less obnoxious SCOTUS picks.

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Saturday, May 29, 2010 - 1:35pmSanction this postReply
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After this poll has had time to run its course, I'll put up another one with a long list of names and ask people to select who they would vote for. (Including Rand Paul, Glenn Beck, Ron Paul, Sarah Palin, Fred Thompson, Gary Johnston, etc.)

I'd suggest rounding out that list with these two libertarian-leaning politicians: Rep. Jeff Flake (R-Arizona) and Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wisconsin), plus perhaps Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal.

Plus, for the conservatives here, Marco Rubio (R-Florida).
(Edited by Jim Henshaw on 5/29, 1:38pm)


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Saturday, May 29, 2010 - 1:45pmSanction this postReply
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I forget who I voted for last time, maybe Obama

How the heck do you not remember who you voted for president in the most recent election?

Were you stoned at the time? Flip a coin? Is your mind trying to block out the terrible, terrible memory of choosing that statist bastard Obama?

How is it possible to not remember that choice?

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Saturday, May 29, 2010 - 1:47pmSanction this postReply
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The last thing I'd call Palin is neurotic.

But an apparent allergy to anything secular makes her intensely dangerous in my opinion.

Glen Beck, even with his insane insistence that the Founders were divinely inspired by non-existent concepts in the Bible, has more respect for secularism in politics.



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Saturday, May 29, 2010 - 1:48pmSanction this postReply
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NM Gov. Gary Johnson might make a good VP candidate.

Palin might make a good VP choice to placate conservatives if Gary Johnson ran for the top spot. He's someone libertarian enough that I might be persuaded to vote R rather than LP.

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Saturday, May 29, 2010 - 2:31pmSanction this postReply
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Jim,

About 1/2 of those you recommended to me were already on my list, and I added the others.

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Saturday, May 29, 2010 - 10:06pmSanction this postReply
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Should be an interesting poll, Steve. Thanks for doing the work to make it happen.

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Sunday, May 30, 2010 - 5:49amSanction this postReply
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MEM: I forget who I voted for last time, maybe Obama
JH: How the heck do you not remember who you voted for president i...   How is it possible to not remember that choice?

Last time around, I might have left the President slot unmarked.  It did not matter to me that much. The Presidency is not that important.  All politics is local.  In national elections, your vote is largely symbolic only for yourself.  I won a local election here in Ann Arbor, to serve as a GOP precinct delegate, in an open primary, with my own name being the only one on the ballot.  (Not many Republicans here in Ann Arbor.)  I was appointed to a county citizen's justice committee simply by applying and submitting my credentials to the board of commissioners; basically, I got the job by asking for it.  How often have you been successful at picking a President for the United States?

  I know that I voted for Harry Browne because I liked Harry.  He autographed my first edition of How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World.  I bought it when it first came out back in '73.  I think that his strategies for achieving personal freedom are highly important because they are workable.  You can best affect your own life.  Your power to change the lives of others falls off by the square of the distance -- physical or social.  Make your own life what you want it to be and the rest does not matter. 

I also voted for Ronald Reagan. I was disappointed in the LP's choices of hacks and partyarchs, passing up great opportunities such as Russell Means (then) and Mary Ruwart (last time). 

The LP is over-rated as a vehicle for "spreading the word."  At the LP convention, do they not arrange themselves in alphabetical order by state? How intelligent or creative or even practical is that?  These people claim to want to reform society and they cannot even reformulate the rules of order for a large meeting.  They are collectivists and statists picking from the same menu, but "limiting" themselves to appetizers.


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Sunday, May 30, 2010 - 7:25amSanction this postReply
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"Sarah Palin is the frontrunner and likely to remain so." Michael Marotta

In what poll? All the ones I've seen, and I follow politics pretty closely, have it more or less neck and neck between Romney and Huckabee, with Palin a distant third. (Fortunately, there is still plenty of time for a decent candidate to appear.)
(Edited by Jeff Perren on 5/30, 7:26am)


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