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Sunday, November 6, 2005 - 10:01pmSanction this postReply
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Andrew

What is it that appeals to you about this?  Is it the photo realism of the artwork? 


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Monday, November 7, 2005 - 12:47amSanction this postReply
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Daniel,
I'm pretty sure that Andrew Wyeth isn't a member here.

J


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Monday, November 7, 2005 - 3:53amSanction this postReply
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Of course, click...Andrew is the artist!!! Doh!

Still, why?  What's so incredible??? Maybe its myopia but I just can't see it!


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Monday, November 7, 2005 - 10:33amSanction this postReply
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Daniel,
I'm curious, what do you think the painting lacks?

J

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Monday, November 7, 2005 - 4:49pmSanction this postReply
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Daniel-
The realism is one thing, yes.  It is also the sense of life of the painting.  It's a slice-of-the-life-one-can-achieve work.  The jet is obviously a luxurious, private one.  The woman(though we can't see her face) seems to be serenely looking down at the world as it passes below her.  Could someone render this better?  Yes, most definitely.  I found it refreshing, especially since it was used in an advertisement for an exhibition of the artist's work at what is normally a shit-for-shit's-sake museum here in Atlanta.

The fact that I'm a pilot and love anything aviation also biases me!


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Monday, November 7, 2005 - 5:24pmSanction this postReply
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Jody

quite right, as an aviation buff I had to have a look too.  I am impressed by the photorealistic rendering, but Jonathan raised a good point when he asked what did it lack. And I can't answer that immediately.

I thought perhaps my uneducated art eye was missing something thats all.


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Monday, November 7, 2005 - 8:33pmSanction this postReply
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It lacks color - it is dull, brownish, with little of vibrancy in it - an empty minded worldview...leading to nowhere...

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Tuesday, November 8, 2005 - 1:56amSanction this postReply
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Jesus, you crack me up, Robert! That was a ~perfect~ imitation of a Randroid! And I couldn't agree more with your lampooning the all-too-common view among Objectivists that unless an artist uses a garish, circus-poster palette, his paintings will be seen as "lacking color" and as revealing his "empty minded worldview." It seems that far too many Objectivists unquestioningly obey (or coincidentally share) Rand's silly notion that the appreciation of nothing but loud, gaudy, laundry-detergent-logo-on-race-car colors is indicative of high self-esteem, and it's refreshing to see you parodying that view. I just knew that as an artist, you'd have the eye to appreciate the nuanced glow of Wyeth's gently muted tones.

Thanks for the chuckle,
J


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Tuesday, November 8, 2005 - 2:08amSanction this postReply
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Oh, and thanks, Jody, for posting this painting. I wouldn't have known that the book Andrew Wyeth: Memory & Magic was being released today if I hadn't been inspired by your post to search for prints and books.

Best,
J


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Tuesday, November 8, 2005 - 7:01amSanction this postReply
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One of the typical responses of pomowankers is in the false alternative contrasting of their blah monochromatic sense of existance with the garishness of auto/circus posters - as if the reality of the bright and clarity of the world around them is too much for their eyes to behold... then, here at least, to emphasize their ignorance of thought, seek to ad hominen another false alternative as so-called Randroids... how droll indeed...

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Tuesday, November 8, 2005 - 7:30amSanction this postReply
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As a non-artist with no aviation enthusiasm, I feel invigorated by the painting. Without thinking, I took a deep breath trying to fill my chest with it.

Sipes


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Tuesday, November 8, 2005 - 7:41amSanction this postReply
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I get that sense from the Bryan Larsen painting,  How Far We've Come, whose colors , tho muted, are still more vibrant than Wyeth's work...

As an added note - consider the implication of the empty table, remembering that anything in a work has metaphysical importance by the fact it is included, and that anything not included also has metaphysical importance: that of not being important enough to include...


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Wednesday, November 9, 2005 - 10:58amSanction this postReply
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You may find the colors of the painting calm and soothing or you may find them dull and lifeless.  You may find a painting with several bright colors stimulating or you may find it garish.  You may find it energizing to have your desktop "cluttered" with notes, sayings, gadgets, and piles of paper, or you might be someone who likes a blank, "clean" surface.  Of course, there are many in-betweens, but I don't see anything for or against Objectivism either way. 

Regarding this work of art, however, I think the color scheme is less important than the obvious fact that few plane rides include such luxuriously spacious seating and large windows for a majestic view.  However, you may not enjoy such a plane ride if you find the atmosphere sterile and uninviting rather than serene.


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Wednesday, November 9, 2005 - 11:06amSanction this postReply
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I don't think that the lack of colors is a negative here; it's like criticizing a musician for using only 5 tones...more important is the scene itself...is the person lonely, looking down from her otherworld?( Is she a female president?). Is it lonely at the top? Is it more peaceful at the top?

I like the painting, personally.

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Wednesday, November 9, 2005 - 4:01pmSanction this postReply
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I love this painting. The first idea that hit me was "clean, very clean, but not sterile."  I love the light spilling onto the spotless table and the shadow creeping onto the chair. I like the implied, thoughtful activity of the girl as she looks out of those huge windows, which remind me of wonderful paintings hanging on a wall in their own right. I think it's wonderful.

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Wednesday, November 9, 2005 - 4:16pmSanction this postReply
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Interesting - since that's much the opposite the sense of life Andrew Wyeth has always held...

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Wednesday, November 9, 2005 - 5:37pmSanction this postReply
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Robert-
I agree with you about Wyeth's other stuff.  When I came across this painting I searched to see his other works and I did not like them.  However, whether it was against the artist's intentions or not, what I felt when I saw this work was something different.  Compare the 'crispness' of this work to his other stuff...it's different. 


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Wednesday, November 9, 2005 - 7:11pmSanction this postReply
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Malcom,

Years ago, my ex-husband and I were wandering through a small gallery looking for pieces for his new office. There were a group of paintings there done by a local artist that I took a great deal of interest in: lots of bright color, tall, breezy figures that seemed  to exude pride, etc. The subject was clearly a market place, packed with well stocked vendors, and buzzing activity. The paintings expressed a whole lot of productive energy to me, and I liked them.

The artist who created them also happened to be there and was delighted to explain his techniques. When I asked about the subject matter, he said that they were scenes from a foreign market place in an urban "slum."

He had meant for the overall effect to be more or less depressing, and was sure he'd accomplished just that, but he was wrong. I told him I found nothing "depressing" about them, they were far too bright, and the figures displayed a notable "tallness," as with pride, and the negative things, like garbage cans and litter, were so small in comparison, that it was pretty clear to me how unimportant they were to him. 

Anyway, he was a very nice guy, and I realized right then that sometimes it's impossible for an artist to create the terrible world they're convinced we all live in. Impossible because it's not true.

Hacks have no problem creating garbage. Good artists have a tougher time creating junk.

I normally don't care about an artist's ideas off the canvas or block. His/her work will at times have the opposite effect of what they intended. That's my take on it, anyway.

Teresa


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Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 8:53amSanction this postReply
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With  the position of her hands and body, and by the curiosity of her looking outside,
  the Artist did not intend  to project the image of  a Dagny.
But that of a  lovely young woman ?
I like her!

(Edited by Ciro D'Agostino on 11/10, 8:56am)


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Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 11:06pmSanction this postReply
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I like the chairs.

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