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Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 9:53pmSanction this postReply
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Why wait?

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Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 10:31pmSanction this postReply
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Hmmm...you know, Chris is Greek and Sicilian, which means a high diet of olive oil, good for the hair, you know...

And I suggest some music while you eat...helps with the digestion...

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Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 10:34pmSanction this postReply
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Ciro, any recipes?





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Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 10:53pmSanction this postReply
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And I thought that orthodox Objectivists and libertarian anarchists were biased, unthinking ideologues, when they were merely pale reflections of the genuine article. How does DD do it? How does one become so ponderously pig-headed that one is incapable of even a modicum of reasoned discourse? Perhaps, the Lantern man will let us in on his secret. Of course, flaming the enemy is a bit like preaching to the choir: it makes you feel good, but it gets you nowhere.

So, let me ask you, Double D, what do you hope to accomplish by your insistent rants? Do you expect to change people's minds? Do you expect to convince them your character assassinations are true? Or is it more likely that those you are castigating will simply dismiss you as a raving lunatic?

Gosh, that's such a difficult question, especially for someone in your position, I almost regret having asked it! So, please take your time; I know that you'll need it.

Oh, and one more thing: You'd better check your lantern; I think the flame is about to go out! ;-)

- Bill



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Post 44

Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 11:10pmSanction this postReply
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Why wait?

Because I want to witness the spectacle of DDD being undone by internal contradictions!


Post 45

Friday, October 14, 2005 - 3:36amSanction this postReply
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You are a bad, bad boy, Bissell. Badder even than I. Heh, heh, heh!

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Friday, October 14, 2005 - 5:05pmSanction this postReply
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I note the repeated use of "rant" to describe what I've done here.  In the spirit of fairness, I'm going to nail down this vague and loaded term.

If "rant" means a bold speech or essay that is made based on a deeply-held conviction made after much careful observation and deliberation on some topic then, yes, I have ranted here.

If, however, "rant" means any sort of whimsically-spouted word salad -- such as what one might hear from a drunken and narcissistic half-wit with an insecure obsession with validating his appearance of intelligence -- then, no, I'm afraid I haven't ranted here.


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Friday, October 14, 2005 - 6:40pmSanction this postReply
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Veg-O-Matic-

If "rant" means a bold speech or essay that is made based on a deeply-held conviction made after much careful observation and deliberation on some topic then, yes, I have ranted here.
If you have a deeply held conviction, you have yet to state it:  if you've made careful observation and deliberation you have yet to elucidate.


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Friday, October 14, 2005 - 6:50pmSanction this postReply
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Daniel,

Your statements tell me that you haven't made a careful of Objectivism, or you define careful in a new way. Make an argument rather than baseless claims. Back up your deep convictions with some facts. Put up, or shut up.


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Friday, October 14, 2005 - 7:52pmSanction this postReply
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Is this thread still lingering?

Daniel, vous êtes un troll fétide ! Revenez à votre trou foncé!


Post 50

Friday, October 14, 2005 - 9:34pmSanction this postReply
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Daniel,

What's your position on Islamists?

Sarah

(now we get to play Name That Troll, guess who my money's on :) )


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Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 7:50amSanction this postReply
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Daniel,
A rant is what you could hear in the downtown areas of big cities, usually near a park.  Someone would be standing on something, talking incessantly about some subject while people pass by.  Now that the internet is available, you don't see this as much today.
Glenn


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Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 8:09amSanction this postReply
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DD:  If "rant" means a bold speech or essay that is made based on a deeply-held conviction made after much careful observation and deliberation on some topic then, yes, I have ranted here.”

 

Unfortunately, you’ve displayed nothing resembling “careful observation and deliberation” on any topic here.  Projectile diatribes outlining subjective/ignorant takes on a subject is not being “careful.”  What you have displayed a remarkable talent for intellectual dishonesty, however.   Your ability to employ emotional defensive mechanisms as a substitute for “argument” ought to be an embarrassment to you. Instead, you seem proud. Odd.

 

Being that this thread was opened by you, appropriately, in the “Dissent” forum, it would be reasonable for us to expect an expert interpretation of “dissent” from you.  Dissent is not disagreement for the sake of disagreement. Dissent is a reasoned argument born from accepted principles held by all parties partaking in the discussion. Rationally, dissent is not used as a vehicle to acquire enemies. However, you have managed to successfully use this important tool for seeking the truth as such a vehicle.

 

Feel better?  Accomplish what you set out to?

 

For a dissenting opinion to have any weight in any given issue, those sparring on the issue must agree at some level of the issue, even as far back as it’s base is a good enough place to begin.  You apparently don’t agree on any level, thus, you don’t “dissent,” you simply dismiss out of hand any attempt to intellectually understand.  Members of the Supreme Court dissent on majority opinion. Atheists dismiss majority and minority opinion from Christians, and vice versa.

 

 There is a huge difference, but I don’t expect you to grasp it.

 

Here the issue is Objectivism as a whole. Rather than begin your disagreement (dissent) in a place we could all understand (Ethics, assuming you understand and agree with her Metaphysics and Epistemology), you blanket the whole with subjective, irrelevant bits of psychobabble, which is actually a dismissal, not a dissent.

 

Objectivists strive to untangle the mess popular “intellectuals” make of important ideas dealing with life. You enjoy the mess, Daniel. Untangling it would destroy your motives, which is to slander ideas you’ve shown toe-curling ignorance of.

 

Your mirror is faded to the point of distorting what you think you see. You lack the passion you hoped to show us because overwhelming ignorance is smothering it.

 

 Instead of being proud, try on some humiliation. You’ve earned it.

 
Teresa


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Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 7:47amSanction this postReply
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It's a thug world, and Islamists are just trying to compete for market share.  But nobody out-thugs or out-sneaks the United States of America. 

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Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 7:56amSanction this postReply
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And by the way, my original post has received 12 sanction votes since it posted on Wednesday... nine votes on Wednesday, and three votes on Saturday.  The first sanction on Saturday was a cluster of five votes, and the second sanction was a cluster of four votes.   

So apparently somebody agrees with me.  And unless I'm misreading things, the first person to vote for me had a lot of sanction votes under their belt.  That means a senior member of this website has the same grievances with objectivism that I do.


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Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 2:47pmSanction this postReply
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Bullshit Dan, Michael gave you 5 sanctions before he realized you were an asshole. In any case, there are those around here who do have some disagreements with Oism. They tend to be far more literate and polite than you though.

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Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 2:50pmSanction this postReply
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Daniel,

Some may agree with you, but it's become common for sanctions to flow freely to those without their first Atlas thingy so as to get them off of moderation.  Given that you've repeatedly ignored my, and others, requests to give something other than generalized character attacks, I think that practice should be rethought.

Sarah


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Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 5:08pmSanction this postReply
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Bullshit Dan, Michael gave you 5 sanctions before he realized you were an asshole.
Fuck you, you Village People wannabe.  *laughs*  Go molest a boy scout.


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Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 5:38pmSanction this postReply
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What is it with my mustache that so attracts internet wierdo paranoids like Dan and Orion? They seem to forget that Objectivism is a philosophy of self-esteem. If I actually looked to others to validate myself and my sexuality he might have actually upset me, but I think I'm the one who's really laughing. Have fun Danny boy with your little boy insults.


It's fun to stay at the YMCA !


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Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 6:39pmSanction this postReply
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Daniel,

I regret I sanctioned your first post. You looked like you might stir something up, you were appropriately posting a "dissent" article, and like Sarah suggested, I was trying to help get you off of moderation so you could engage people in "real time" in the ensuing conversation.

My mistake.

I have neither agreed with you nor found you interesting.

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